Check It Out, a Normal Public Library Podcast

Check It Out is the Normal Public Library’s podcast featuring book, audio, and movie recommendations, timely info about the library’s programs and services, and fun discussions with talented people. Listen to individual episodes below, or subscribe in iTunes to download the latest episode automatically!

Episode 33
Released: October 22, 2017

Ben Mills recommends a cookbook full of year-round farm-fresh recipes (11:12); Silvia Schuh talks October and November arts and crafts (7:57); and Mari McKeeth recommends some epistolary novels, with the help of the host (19:07).

Ben recommends:

Dishing Up the Dirt by Andrea Bemis

Mari recommends:

Where’d You Go, Bernadette by Maria Semple

Ella Minnow Pea by Mark Dunn

World War Z by Max Brooks

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian by Sherman Alexie

Giliad by Marilynne Robinson

Jared recommends:

Possession by A.S. Byatt

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Episode 32
Released: September 28, 2017

In this episode, Tori Lieggi introduces us to a unique and quirky travel book (9:31), and Kristi Cates recommends a stack of young adult historical fiction (17:16). Plus, we interview visiting antique and fine art appraiser Mark Moran (11:17).

Mark Moran’s website is here.

Tori recommends:

Atlas Obscura by Joshua Foehr, Dylan Thuras, and Ella Morton

Kristi recommends:

The Great Trouble: A Mystery of London, the Blue Death, and a Boy Called Eel by Deborah Hopkinson

The Wicked and the Just by J. Anderson Coats

Flygirl by Sherri L. Smith

Under a Painted Sky by Stacey Lee

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Episode 31
Released: August 24, 2017

In this back-to-school-themed episode, Laura Rocco gives us one last school-themed recommendation before heading back to school herself (17:43); Silvia Schuh ushers in the fall semester with September arts and crafts (6:51); and Mari McKeeth takes us all to school with some quirky and educational nonfiction (15:10).

Laura recommends:

The Magicians by Lev Grossman

Mari recommends:

Away With Words by Joe Berkowitz

The Not-Quite States of America by Doug Mack

The Physics of Everyday Things by James Kakalios

How to Hygge by Signe Johansen

The Photo Ark by Joel Sartore

Mark Moran

Register for Mark Moran’s What’s It Worth? session by calling NPL on the old-fashioned (but classic!) telephone at (309) 452-1757 (registration opens on August 30th). Email Mark to schedule a private session at (A portion of his fee benefits NPL.)

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Episode 30
Released: July 28, 2017

In this, our thirtieth episode, Kathleen Kirk recommends an especially literary cookbook (7:29); Ally Byerly puts out the call for submissions to our Normal Library Extraordinary Stories project (6:11); and Kristi Cates sorts some YA novels into their appropriate wizarding houses (23:20).

Kathleen recommends:

Feast: Poetry and Recipes for a Full Seating at Dinner, edited by Diane Goettel and Anneli Matheson

Kristi recommends:

Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein

Highly Illogical Behavior by John Corey Whaley

The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks by E. Lockhart

Graceling by Kristin Cashore

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Episode 29
Released: June 30, 2017

In this episode, Kathleen Kirk previews a very special visiting poets event (11:31), and Mari McKeeth recommends a pile of novels based on the works of Shakespeare (14:57). Plus, we reveal the name of the new recurring cookbook segment (spoiler alert: it’s a really geeky librarian in-joke).

Kathleen recommends:

Via Negativa (Purveyors of fine poetry since 2003.)

Night Willow and Ode to the Heart Smaller than a Pencil Eraser by Luisa A. Gloria

Jared recommends:

The River Cottage Meat Book by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall

Mari recommends:

A Thousand Acres by Jane Smiley

Fool by Christopher Moore

From the Hogarth Shakespeare Project:

The Gap of Time by Jeannette Winterson

Vinegar Girl by Anne Tyler

Hag-seed by Margaret Atwood

New Boy by Tracy Chevalier

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Episode 28
Released: June 14, 2017

In this episode, Silvia Schuh talks summer arts, crafts, and events (11:29); Laura Rocco recommends a cookbook in an as-yet-unnamed recurring segment (9:12); and Kristi Cates recommends some books she loves that are great for Teen Summer Reading (19:03).

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Laura recommends:

Will It Waffle? by Daniel ShumskiWill it waffle? by Daniel Shumski

Kristi recommends:

You’re Welcome, Universe by Whitney Gardner

Exo by Fonda Lee

The Vigilante Poets of Selwyn Academy by Kate Hattemer

A Face Like Glass by Francis Harding

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Episode 27
Released: May 25, 2017

In this episode, Laura Rocco recommends a classic narrative that blends fiction and nonfiction (9:52); Kristi Cates gives us the rundown of the library’s summer programs for teens (15:06); and Mari McKeeth talks about some 2016 books that won Major Awards (15:30).

Laura recommends:

The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien

Some of Kristi’s Summer Programs For Teens™:

Teen Summer Reading (and all the Summer Reading)

Teen Maker Wednesdays

Mari recommends:

The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead

Evicted by Matthew Desmond

Lab Girl by Hope Jahron

A Great Reckoning by Louise Penny

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Episode 26
Released: April 29, 2017

In this episode, Silvia Schuh talks May arts and crafts (7:41); Julia Cozad-Callighan explains the library’s Lunchtime Yoga program (2:49); and Kristi Cates recommends some YA novels full of murder and mayhem (18:14).

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Kristi recommends:

Fake ID by Lamar Giles

White Cat by Holly Black

The Caged Graves by Dianne K. Salerni

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Episode 26 Podcast Extra:

In this Check It Out podcast extra, Kristi Cates recommends a murder-and-mayhem themed nonfiction book about forensic science for teens.

Kristi recommends:

Blood, Bullets, and Bones by Bridget Heos

Episode 25
Released: April 7, 2017

kids at play

In this special episode, Bloomington-Normal artist Rashod Taylor talks about his work as a photographer specializing in the wet plate collodion process. Taylor’s work is on display at the Normal Public Library through July 2017. An artist reception will be held on April 7th, 2017 from 4:30 to 6:30 in the gallery.

Be sure to check out the bonus extended discussion of Taylor’s technique, released as a podcast extra in your feed or available on our website at

You can find Rashod’s work here:

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In this podcast extra, Rashod Taylor talks in more detail about the wet plate collodion technique. If you haven’t already, be sure to listen to Episode 25, found in your podcast feed or available on our website at

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Episode 24
Released: March 27, 2017

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In this episode, Julia Cozad-Callaghan gives us an update on her Read Harder 2017 reading challenge (12:26); Silvia Schuh updates us on March and April crafts, and puts out a call for some charitable knitting (9:07); and Mari McKeeth talks 2017 Oscar Nominations for Best Adapted Screenplay (22:05). Plus, we ask for your feedback!

Julia recommends:

The Surrender Tree by Margarita Engle

Hidden Figures by Margot Lee Shetterly

Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi

The Red Umbrella by Christina Gonzalez

Princess Princess Ever After by Katie O’Neill

Princeless: Raven the Pirate Princess by Jeremy Whitley

Mari recommends:

Arrival: screenplay by Eric Heisserer, based on “Story of Your Life” in Stories of Your Life by Ted Chiang

Fences: screenplay by August Wilson, based on his play Fences

Hidden Figures: screenplay by Allison Schroeder and Theodore Melfi, based on Hidden Figures by Margot Lee Shetterly

Lion: screenplay by Luke Davies, based on A Long Way Home by Saroo Brierly

Moonlight: screenplay by Barry Jenkins, based on the play In Moonlight Black Boys Look Blue by Tarell Alvin McCraney

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Episode 23
Released: March 4, 2017

In this very special episode, we present a two part interview with local author and educator Scott William Foley. First, Scott recommends a novel that blurs the line between fiction and nonfiction (11:41); and then he talks about the rewards and pitfalls of balancing the roles of working writer, high school English teacher, and family man (23.03).

Some books Scott talks about:

Moonglow by Michael Chabon

The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon

Andropia by Scott William Foley

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Episode 22
Released: February 7, 2017

In this episode, Tori Lieggi recommends a memoir that comes to terms with family and mental illness with sharp wit and a lot of heart (8:02); Silvia Schuh gives us the lowdown on February (and some March) arts and crafts (6:43); and Kristi Cates recommends a handful of books for teens and adults that serve as funny diversions during the doldrums of February (14:55). Plus, we invite young writers to the Teen Writer’s Workshop.

Tori recommends:

Let’s Pretend This Never Happened by Jenny Lawson

Silvia recommends:

Brainfuse Help Now

Brainfuse Job Now

Kristi recommends:

No More Dead Dogs by Gordon Korman

Going Bovine by Libba Bray

Into the Wild Nerd Yonder by Julie Halpern

Nimona by Noelle Stevenson

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Episode 21
Released: January 21, 2017

In this first episode of 2017, Julia Cozad-Callaghan recommends a unique reading challenge to start off the new year (9:55); Randi Sutter talks up the Children’s Department’s new S.T.E.A.M. Club (6:14); and Mari McKeeth recommends a couple of 2016 books that stood out from the rest (14:55).

Julia mentioned:

The Ghost Bride by Yangsze Choo

Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi

Swygert by Jeffrey Harold Utterback

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Mari recommended:

Becoming Wise by Krista Tippett

The Trespasser by Tana French

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Episode 20
Released: December 30, 2016

In this final episode of 2016, Laura Rocco recommends an unusual fantasy perfect for reading at night (12:18); Silvia Schuh explains why January is Scarf Month at NPL (4:53); and Kristi Cates recommends an assorted trio of adventure books and explains the library’s local schools “book talk” programs (17:00).

Laura recommends:

The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern

Kristi recommends:

The Knife of Never Letting Go by Patrick Ness

Surrounded By Sharks by Michael Northrop

Walk On Earth a Stranger by Rae Carson

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Episode 19
Released: December 6, 2016

In this episode, we hear a selection of poems from the RHINO 40th Anniversary Poetry Reading at the library, organized by Kathleen Kirk; Silvia Schuh talks December arts and crafts; and Alec Gramm recommends some books that open up the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons.

Our RHINO poets were:

Stephen Frech

Jannett Highfill

Tim Hunt

Matthew Murrey

Valerie Wallace

Find more great poetry in the library’s collection of RHINO and at the RHINO website.

Alec recommends:

Of Dice and Men by David M. Ewalt

Dungeons & Dragons Player’s Handbook

Dungeons & Dragons Dungeon Master’s Guide

Dungeons & Dragons Monster Manual

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Bonus Episode
Released: November 28, 2016

In this bonus segment of Check It Out, Marketing Assistant Nakia Worrell talks about the library’s past and present Giving Tuesday campaigns.

Helpful links:

More information about the 2016 Normal Public Library Giving Tuesday campaign

We’re thankful to have so many enthusiastic community patrons to serve! Please contact us if you have questions or feedback of any kind. Our email is, and you can reach us on Twitter at NPLTweets.

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Episode 18
Released: November 14, 2016

In this episode, Laura Rocco recommends a chilly gothic novel for long cold nights (8:30); Kathleen Kirk previews the RHINO Magazine 40th Anniversary poetry reading (10:53); and Mari McKeeth recommends a range of holiday-themed genre fiction (15:17).

Laura recommends:

The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield

Kathleen recommends:

Where We Live Illinois

RHINO Magazine

Mari recommends:

The Twelve Dogs of Christmas by David Rosenfelt

Smoke and Mirrors by Elly Griffiths

Santa Cruise by Mary Higgins and Carol Higgins Clark

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Episode 17
Released: October 25, 2016

In this Halloween Pumpkin-spice-infused episode, Silvia Schuh previews upcoming arts and crafts programs (7:24); Julia Cozad-Callaghan and Kristi Cates introduce NPLay, a new recurring library event for cosplay enthusiasts (4:28); and Kristi recommends a few delightfully creepy novels for young (and old) adults (14:50).

Kristi recommends:

The Replacement by Brenna Yovanoff

Anna Dressed In Blood by Kendare Blake

Tell the Story to Its End by Simon P. Clark

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Episode 16
Released: September 29, 2016

In this episode, Laura Rocco recommends a serial graphic novel with a childlike premise but an adult sensibility (9:30); Kristi Cates talks with Teen Advisory Council member Isabel about a couple of young adult novels (5:17); and Mari McKeeth and Jared recommend a classic dystopian novel in honor of Banned Books Week (15:56).

As always, we’d love to hear from you! Email us at, or find us on Twitter @NPLTweets.

Laura recommends:

Locke & Key by Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez

Isabel recommends:

Ingo by Helen Dunmore

Princess of the Midnight Ball by Jessica Day George

Mari and Jared recommend:

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

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It’s Novel (To Me)
Released: September 16, 2016

In each episode of this new spinoff podcast, Normal Public Library staff discuss a novel they’ve never read before, but should have. In this inaugural episode, Alec Gramm, Jared Johnson, Holli Kober, Ben Mills, Laura Rocco, and Pam Schuett discuss Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s 1864 novel, Crime and Punishment.

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Episode 15
Released: September 6, 2016

In this episode, Pam Schuett and I geek out over the films of Hiyao Miyazaki (14:04); Kristi Cates recommends some books for middle school kids who are starting to outgrow middle school books (15:32); and we preview the library’s latest podcast, It’s Novel (To Me).

Pam recommends:

Films written and/or directed by Hayao Miyazaki

Kristi recommends:

The Great Greene Heist by Varian Johnson

I Kill the Mockingbird by Paul Acampora

Cuckoo Song by Frances Hardinge

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Episode 14
Released: August 1, 2016

In this episode, Kristi Cates talks about the library’s Anime Clubs for Teens and for Adults (7:12); Silvia Schuh is back to talk about August arts and crafts programs (3:41); and Mari McKeeth highlights a few of the many magazines the library carries, and explains how patrons can use Zinio to download magazines to read on a digital device (12:47). Plus, I invite listeners to join us for a rousing discussion of Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment, which will be featured in the first episode of our spinoff podcast, It’s Novel (To Me).

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Episode 13
Released: July 15, 2016

After a bit of a hiatus, Check It Out is back! In this episode, Mari McKeeth explains how the library chooses items to add to its adult print collection (10:59); Laura Rocco recommends a funny book about a Depressing topic (8:59); and Kristi C. talks up two YA sports novels with universal themes (12:05). Plus, we invite you to read along with us in preparation for our upcoming spinoff podcast.

Laura recommends:

Tobacco Road by Erskine Caldwell

Kristi recommends:

Losers Take All by David Klass

Being Sloane Jacobs by Lauren Morrill

The library’s new podcast stars will discuss:

Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

As always, we’d love to hear from you! Our email is, and we can be found on Twitter @NPLTweets.

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Episode 12
Released: May 12, 2016

In this episode, Kristen Bauder and host Jared Johnson talk about what a “library assistant” does, Silvia Schuh gives the rundown of May arts and crafts and previews the plans for summer, and Mari McKeeth recommends two very different books that both have a Muslim protagonist.

Mari recommends:

The Unquiet Dead, by Ausma Zehanat Khan

The Badass Librarians of Timbuktu, by Joshua Hammer

As always, please contact us with praise, criticism, or random musings. Our email is, and you can tweet us on Twitter @NPLTweets.

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Episode 11
Released: April 21, 2016

In this episode, Rachel Weishar talks about Poetry Is Normal, a new semi-regular poetry reading event held in the library’s cafe (6:34); Amy Kubica explains the Staff Picks and Patron Picks programs (5:06); and Kristi Cates recommends three recent prize-winning young adult novels (12:05). Plus, we inaugurate a new segment in which we talk to a kid about the library. (This week, it’s Montana’s turn. Thanks, Montana!)

Amy recommends:

Before We Go (2015)

Montana recommends:

The Princess and the Pig, by Jonathan Emmett and Poly Bernatene

Kristi recommends:

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Episode 10
Released: April 4, 2016

In this episode, Kristi Cates explains how the Teen Advisory Council contributes to the library’s mission (4:33), Silvia Schuh talks up April’s arts and crafts programs and fills us in on National Library Week activities (6:19), and Mari McKeeth makes some recommendations to fill the Downton-Abbey-shaped gap in patrons’ lives (13:46). Plus, there’s a new classic first line challenge!

Take a look at the Teen Advisory Council schedule and sign up for April arts and crafts using our Activity Calendar.

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Episode 9
Released: March 9, 2016

In this episode, Rebecca Gopinath invites us to attend a screening of the hit Bollywood film Bajrangi Bhaijaan (5:38); Jennifer Williams gives the rundown of kids’ spring break activities that we’re calling Spy Training (6:01); and Kristi Cates recommends two great but often overlooked young adult novels (8:30).

Check out our activity calendar to register for Spring Break programs.

Check out Kristi’s recommendations:

The Year of Secret Assignments* (print) by Jaclyn Moriarty

The Year of Secret Assignments* (audiobook)

The President’s Daughter by Ellen Emerson White

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Episode 8
Released: March 3, 2016

Jennifer Williams talks about Mo Willems’ new chapter book, The Story of Diva and Flea (5:45); Silvia Schuh gives us the lowdown on March arts and crafts programs (3:50); and Mari McKeeth recommends Val McDermid’s latest mystery, Splinter the Silence (12:33). Plus, Mari talks about two services for finding great books: Novelist and eSequels.

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Episode 7
Released: February 11, 2016

In this episode, Perry Kaufman explains the difference between “hard” and “soft” science fiction and makes a couple recommendations (13:21), and Kristi Cates talks about books that readers of The Martian might also like (13:39). Plus, there’s a new prize challenge.

Perry’s recommendations:

Blindsight by Peter Watts
Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds

Kristi’s recommendations:

The Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars)
Packing For Mars by Mary Roach
Alone In Antarctica by Felicity Aston
Adrift: Seventy-Six Days Lost at Sea by Steven Callahan

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Episode 6
Released: January 27, 2016

In this episode, Meghan Rogers explains the Adult Winter Reading Program, and Mari McKeeth talks about all the great books that were turned into movie scripts and nominated for this year’s Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar:

  • Brooklyn, by Colm Tóibín (screenplay by Nick Hornby)
  • The Martian, by Andy Weir (screenplay by Drew Goddard)
  • The Price of Salt, by Patricia Highsmith (adapted as Carol, screenplay by Phyllis Nagy)
  • The Big Short, by Michael Lewis (screenplay by Adam McKay and Charles Randolph)
  • Room, by Emma Donoghue (screenplay by Emma Donoghue herself)

And as always, you can register for library programs on our website. Please write us at and tell us what you think!

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Episode 5
Released: January 13, 2016

In our first episode of 2016, Silvia Schuh recommends the All Souls Trilogy by Deborah Harkness, starting with the first novel in the series, A Discovery of Witches. Holli Kober recommends Suicide Squad, a series of comics that patrons can access through Hoopla. Plus, we talk February arts and crafts (register here), and we bring our first literary interpretation challenge to a close.

The translation of Dante’s Inferno by Mark Musa referenced in this episode is excellent, by the way.

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Episode 4
Released: December 30, 2015
In the final episode of 2015, Amy Kubica recommends the Black Jewels trilogy by Anne Bishop, Laura Rocco recommends The Secret Diary of Lizzie Bennet by Bernie Su and Kate Noble (which is based on a popular Youtube series), and I have some thoughts about libraries as we bring 2015 to a close. Plus, we check in on last episode’s literary challenge.

The book I refer to in my editorial is Among Others by Jo Walton. You can see pictures of the remarkable JT and EJ Crumbaugh Memorial Library here.

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Episode 3
Released: December 16, 2015
In this week’s episode, we explore the wonders of the library’s 3D printer, eLearning programs you can access through our website, and January’s arts and crafts programs (register now!). Also, we talk about some books that Star Wars fans might have a good feeling about. Plus, a new and better way to win the episode’s weekly prize.

Books we recommend in this episode:

Star Wars: Verily, A New Hope by Ian Doescher

The Pluto Files by Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Young Miles by Lois McMaster Bujold

A Beautiful Friendship by David Weber

Expiration Day by William Campbell Powell

This episode features the “Sunrise” opening to Also Sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss, performed by the University of Chicago Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Barbara Schubert, available at the Internet Archive. For over one hundred different performances of Strauss’s Also Sprach Zarathustra, why not check out Naxos Music Library? It’s free, and all that’s required is a Normal Public Library card (which is also free). Plus, Naxos Music Library offers streaming access to more than 109,960 CDs with more than 1,609,000 tracks of many musical genres including classical, jazz, world and pop/rock.

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Episode 2
Released: Nov 30, 2015
In this episode, we talk about The Black House by Peter May, the first in a trilogy of mysteries set on a remote Scottish island. Also, we talk about the library’s arts and crafts programs coming up in December, how to download audio and video content using the internet and your trusty Normal Public Library card, and our Giving Tuesday fundraiser, which aims to raise enough money to fund a mobile maker space for our teen patrons. Plus, another chance for our loyal podcast listeners to snag a prize!

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Episode 1
Released: Nov 18, 2015
In this inaugural episode, we talk about the young adult novel The Name of the Star by Maureen Johnson, the library’s collection of James Bond films, November’s arts and crafts programs, and how to download ebooks using your Normal Public Library card. Plus, our brilliant listeners get their first chance to win a prize.

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